Republican / Democrat Presidential Face-off

I’m not one who likes to engage it political arguements personally.  Everyone has their personal political preferences and they have that right.  People choose their affiliation based on which party best represents their personal views.  I am a Republican and for many reasons and there are many reasons I won’t vote for a democratic president but it mainly boils down to the fact that they don’t support my views and Republican presidents do.  One thing you won’t find me doing is bashing the democratic party as a whole and talk about how they are all dogs or whatever.  Now I will state specific facts about certain presidents I don’t like and defend with facts about presidents I do like.  So I thought I would list a few FACTS here.  These are not arguements or democratic bashing in anyway, just historical facts only.

First a list of what affiliation each of our presidents were associated with.

No Affiliation

George Washington

 Whig Party

William Henry Harrison
John Tyler
Zachary Taylor
Millard Fillmore

Federalist Party

John Adams

Unionist

Andrew Johnson

Democratic-Republican Party

Thomas Jefferson
James Madison
James Monroe
John Quincy Adams

Pre-Civil War Democratics

Andrew Jackson
Martin Van Buren
James K. Polk
Franklin Pierce
James Buchanan

The Democratic Party split just before the Civil War began; there is only a slight connection between the Pre-Civil War Party and the modern Democratic Party.

Modern Democratic Party Members

Grover Cleveland
Woodrow Wilson
Franklin D. Roosevelt
Harry S. Truman
John F. Kennedy
Lyndon B. Johnson
Jimmy Carter
Bill Clinton
Barack Obama

If you start the list of Democrats with Andrew Jackson, then none of the first six presidents were either Democrat or Republican. Nor of course, were the Whig Presidents WH Harrison, Tyler, Taylor and Fillmore. So ten in all.

Democrats sometimes confuse the issue by claiming to be lineal descendants of Jefferson’s “Democratic Republicans”. If you take that seriously (don’t) then Jefferson, Madison, Monroe and perhaps JQ Adams should be omitted from the list.

Andrew Johnson was elected VP as a “Unionist”, but this was just the Republican Party with a few pro-War Democrats added on, so he doesn’t really count. As president, his administration was entirely Republican.

Republican Presidents

Abraham Lincoln
Ulysses S. Grant
Rutherford B. Hayes
James Garfield
Chester A. Arthur
Benjamin Harrison
William McKinley
Theodore Roosevelt
William H. Taft
Warren G. Harding
Calvin Coolidge
Herbert C. Hoover
Dwight D. Eisenhower
Richard M. Nixon
Gerald R. Ford
Ronald W. Reagan
George H. Bush
George W. Bush

Now that are presidents are listed by affiliation lets list some facts about a few of them.  I’m not going to get into all of them and all the facts about them.  I’d be typing forever if I did.  If you want to know more you can google them.

Abraham Lincoln a Republican President freed the Black Slaves of America along with the rest of the Republicans that fought for the North.  The Democrats were for continuing the blacks as slaves even the Democrats that lived in the Northern states.  It was the Confederacy that succeeded from the Union and started the Civil War when Lincoln won the election because they knew Lincoln would push Congress to abolish Slavery in the USA.  Lincoln was the first Republican President.  The Republicans have always been against slavery and for human rights for all races and still are.  As a side note, Shortly before his father was assassinated, Robert Lincoln was at train station where he fell between the platform and the train as the train began to move.  He was pulled to safety by a prominent actor of the time named Edwin Booth.  Edwin was the brother of John Wilkes Booth, who would later assassinate President Lincoln.

Theodore Roosevelt a Republican bought the Panama Canal zone from the French and built the Panama Canal.  Teddy also started the National Park system of the USA and the first National Park in the whole world, was Yellow Stone National Park.  Teddy gave Yellow Stone Park to all citizens of the USA.  Now many countries all over the world have started National Parks.  Republicans were the first party for the environment starting with Teddy.  Teddy also delivered the “Square Deal and regulation of industry”.  This helped the working classes.  BTW it was Jimmy Carter a Democrat President that gave away the Panama Canal zone for nothing.

Thomas Woodrow Wilson a Democrat President led America into WWI.  Warren G. Harding a Republican President led us from WWI into “normalcy”.  President Harding led the country away from Wilsons socialistic views and returned it to the Capitalistic systems and the freedom we all love, with the greatest landslide Presidential election victory in USA history.

Franklin D. Roosevelt a Democrat President led the USA into WWII.  Dwight D. Eisenhower a Republican President as General and Commander of all the Armed forces of the USA led the USA to victory over Germany and Japan so America could keep the freedom we now have.  Roosevelt died before WWII ended but Eisenhower won the war anyways.

Harry S. Truman a Democrat President was vice-President under FDR and took over the Presidency when FDR died in office.  Truman gave away most of Eastern Europe to Russia at the end of WWII.  The USA won the war but Truman was too soft and inexperienced, so Truman faced an international crisis at the end of WWII, he couldn’t handle it and he lost most of Eastern Europe to Russia in negotiations, which started the cold war with Russia. Then just a few years later Truman led the USA into the Korean War.  “The war remained a frustrating stalemate for two years, with over 30,000 Americans killed, until a peace agreement restored borders and ended the conflict.  In the interim, the difficulties in Korea and the popular outcry against Truman’s sacking of MacArthur helped to make the president so unpopular that Democrats started turning to other candidates.” wikipedia.org

Lyndon B. Johnson a Democrat President led the USA into the Vietnam War.  Richard Nixon a Republican President led the USA out of Vietnam and ended the Draft. Nixon also opened the doors to trading with China.

Reagan and George Bush both Republican Presidents won the cold war against Russia and freed Eastern Europe, which Truman gave away to Russia, without firing a shot.  They built the “big stick” which included the Military Machine we have today including the Stealth Bombers and fighters, again so we Americans can all be free instead of bowing to a Communist Dictator like Castro or Stalin. Reagan and George Bush also improved the economy to great and new heights that was totally destroyed under Jimmy Carter, a Democrat President, with Carter’s extremely high taxes and the running of the printing presses that caused runaway inflation.  (This is why many see Barack Obama as another Jimmy Carter; it has already been tried in the USA and failed miserably.  This is neither change nor nothing new.  It is just a return to the failed policies of Jimmy Carter)

George Bush also won the Gulf war against Iraq and Sadam Hussein, freeing Kuwait, One of the shortest wars America ever engaged in.

George W. Bush a Republican President has won the war over Sadam Hussein, toppled his radical dictatorship, stopped the terrorism that Sadam’s Regime trained and financed with Al Queda in Iraq.  George W Bush has won that war with the “Surge” and has placed a new Iraq Democracy in the Middle East with hopes to grow that democracy in other countries, thereby ending the Radical Muslim strongholds of Al Queda and others, and bring freedom to the good Muslims that live there.  He took a stand against the tyrannical terrorists, Al Queda after they attacked us in our own country, killing thousands of American citizans and took the fight to them.  The Economy was great under George W Bush for his first six years with only 6% unemployed, but then the Democrats took over Congress and the Senate the last two years, and the economy has went into the tank under the Democrats leadership with Nancy Pelosi and Harry Ried along with Barny Frank that destroyed it.  The market meltdown all started with subprime loans that Obama and Acorn and Bill Clinton all democrats thought were a good idea.  So Bill Clinton, a Democrat President deregulated the banking system so they would make loans to people who couldn’t qualify nor pay the payments.  And Obama with Acorn pressured those banks to make those subprime loans that caused this market meltdown.

One thing that has gotten under my skin is Obama saying he killed Osama Bin Laden.  I’m sorry but he did not kill him, he gave the order for the Navy Seals to complete their operation to go in and kill him.  It was the Navy Seals who killed Osama Bin Laden, lets give credit where credit is due.  It was also Bush who made the decisioin to go after him in the first place after we were attacked on 9-11 after so many prior attacks that went unpunished under Clinton’s presidency.

In summary:  Did you notice that it was the Democrats:  Wilson that led us into WWI, FDR that led us into WWII, Truman that led us into the Korean War, and LBJ that led us into Vietnam, and all those wars were fought with huge losses of drafted American Soldiers lives.  It was the Republicans that led us out of and won the wars the Democrats put us into and also ended the draft.  The two Bushes won both of their wars with less human losses in comparison.

As, I stated these are just facts, not a bashing of any kind.  Hopefully you enjoyed your history lesson and remember when voting look at the historical data before casting your vote.  One thing I didn’t show was the democrats have a history of downsizing our military and removing our presence in other countries (A VERY BAD THING) which only leaves us vulnerable to attack and cutting pay raises to our already underpaid military members, where as the Republicans have a history of supporting our military and giving higher raises to our military members.

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7 thoughts on “Republican / Democrat Presidential Face-off

  1. DaPoet

    I always get a laugh when I hear or read conservatives spout off about their small government no tax beliefs or how its the republican party that fits their needs. Because without a doubt when given a chance to vote for a big government big spender liberal conservative republicans always do so. W was one and so is Mitt who as governor of Mass. birthed the fore runner of Obama Care and even with nearly 60% of the US budget going to the military wants to increase it by another 4% even as his – your – revered party is doing their level best to destroy social security.

    The truth is the republican party has been lying to you and has convinced you to actually vote against your own best interests. Who do you think it was that teamed up with the feminists and put into place the child support laws that have made you a financial slave to your ex wife? That’s right it was the Republicans.

    Both political parties have been co-opted and bought out by the moneyed interests and have become so corrupt that not even a third party could clean up the mess nor remain untainted by political corruption.

    Yep it will take a political revolution and a descent into fascism and a reign of terror on the magnitude of what occurred in France in the late 1800’s and in Germany under Hitler to clean out not only our current government but the ignorant voters who vote them into office. Only then will the survivors have a chance to restore our country back onto the path intended by our foundering fathers.

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    1. radaronelson Post author

      Well as I said, I have found political debates are never debates they end up arguements and people getting pisses because the other person isn’t changing their belief system and siding with them instead. I have found the only people who can be swayed one way or another on anything are those who say “I don’t know or I’m not sure”. If someone is set in their thinking on something there is absolutely nothing I can say that is going to change their mind about it no matter how much proof I provide their their thinking is off and misguided. And the reverse applies as well no matter how hard someone tries to sway me to believe false thinkings nothing they say is going to change my mind. I could have easily listed bills pasted by democratic representatives that made it vertually impossible for me to get food stamps when I was unemployed because my $67 a week in unemployment was considered too much and I didn’t have enough dependants to counter it but that wasn’t the purpose of this post. But that is the great thing about this country we have the right to think how we want and believe what we want right or wrong.

      As I stated before most people pick a party affiliation because that party best supports their own way of thinking politically and with human relations, military support, taxes, or whatever. But the issue comes in to play when we vote. A lot of people vote for a persone solely because that person is in their party afiliation when instead they should be voting for the PERSON that best supports their beliefs and the direction they want their state or country to go in. Most Democrat presidents have made decisions that I just did not agree with but on the other side of the coin there have been Republican presidents that have made on occassion a decision or two that I didn’t agree with either. On the other hand there have been Democrat presidents who from time to time made a decision I did agree with and the majority of the decisions made by Republican presidents I have agreed with as well.

      The last election I did not vote for Obama not because he was a Demacrat and I’m Republican but because I did not agree with the direction he wanted to take this country and so for me he has been a major disappointment to me as a president and I’m happy to say I did NOT vote for him, I did not do this to our country. Our economy sucks ass, Oboma-care is probably one of the worst decisions ever made by any president and how that ever got passed I don’t know. I’m embarrassed as a U.S. citizen that it did. But as things pertained to this post I did not do any bashing of the democrats or republicans. All I did was list who were affiliated with what parties and listed a few facts about a couple of those presidents and tried to show a correlations between mistakes made and good things done. None of which were made up or skewed to represent my point of view. All of which were historical facts and can be found in any historical book or article about each of those presidents addressed.

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      1. DaPoet

        The citizen who casts his vote becomes just as responsible for the actions of the party he voted into power. As well as just as guilty of the consequences foisted upon the nations by the mistakes of his political leaders. As far as I’m concerned neither the democrat nor the republican party is morally fit to govern this nation while the corruption of our political leaders is a direct reflection of the moral corruption of the citizens who vote them into office.

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        1. radaronelson Post author

          I agree but on that same token if the person I voted for did not get voted into office and someone else did (the one I did NOT vote for) then I’m not responsible for the actions of the party voted into powere because I did not vote them into power, I was outvoted by a majority of other people who did.

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          1. DaPoet

            No matter whom one votes for a vote for the lesser of two evils is still a vote for evil. Far better to abstain from voting than to violate one’s conscience and sense of morality.

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  2. Shannygirl

    I don’t discuss politics (everytime I do I lose friends) so all I will say is I’m very glad to say that Republicans did put in the child support laws. For way to long men got away with being dead beat dad’s and not paying for the kids they helped to create. We have no problem paying the child support every month to make sure his kids are well taken care of. It is the alimony and the constant lying to the state of Fla in which makes him have to pay more money to her then the decree stated that we have the issue with.

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    1. DaPoet

      Unfortunately the child support laws – just like the domestic violence laws had nothing to do with protecting women – weren’t about providing support for children but to financially enslave and destroy the father by taking away his right to provide a living for himself. The unconstitutional effects of these laws have led to an increasing number of young men to both turn away from marriage and avoid intimate relationships with women. And these numbers will only grow ever larger as more and men end up in jail cells because they can’t pay up when they’ve lost their jobs to a layoff {through no fault of their own} or end up disabled because of an accident or medical condition.

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